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jalopnik escribió: After years of distraction building the SLR with Mercedes, McLaren is reportedly back on track with the successor to its legendary F1 supercar. Autocar reports the "F2" project is steaming ahead, using development once destined for the Mercedes-McLaren P8 -- a project put on hold in 2005 amid quality and sales problems by then MB boss Eckhard Cordes. Now, spies say McLaren is now testing mechanical mules for a mid-engined prototype in the guise of a Ferrari 360. No word on whether it's sporting a naturally aspirated V12 or a more F1-relevant V8. Will it wrest the speed trophy back from Bugatti? Will it look like the spec image Autocar commissioned? Will it return to a BMW-sourced engine or build one at Woking? Too many questions. – Mike Spinelli

autocar escribió:Autocar can reveal that McLaren’s own long-delayed mid-engined supercar project is back on track. The first prototypes already on test in the UK, and our exclusive artist’s impression reveals, for the first time, how the car could look.

For McLaren the project will be a chance to build a pure-bred follow-up the legendary F1, a car still regarded by some as the finest high-performance car in history.

F2: aborted Mercedes project comes good

The F2 has its roots in the P8, the car McLaren had been committed to building as a smaller and cheaper supercar with Mercedes, after the launch of the SLR. Mercedes boss Jurgen Hubbert confirmed in early 2004 that the company was actively “looking at a mid-engined road car”.

Codenamed P8, the car was put on hold in late 2004 by then-Mercedes Car Group boss Eckhard Cordes. Cordes said that the P8 had “successfully completed the concept stage,” but development had been frozen.

The hiatus was mainly a result of huge losses at Mercedes and the emergence of significant quality problems in its mainstream models. Also, the SLR was also not as well received as Mercedes had hoped and there was a great deal of recrimination in the air, especially about its perceived engineering failings.

McLaren goes it alone

The F2 will be a solo effort by the Woking outfit, and a chance to re-establish the company’s credentials at the top-end of the market.

Sources have told Autocar that mechanical mules disguised under a Ferrari 360 body are already running around the company’s Woking HQ. They advise to expect a mid-engined machine built around a carbon-fibre monocoque.

If the new car does echo the 15-year old F1 concept it will be powered by a normally aspirated V12 powerplant too. However, as F1 currently demands V8 engines, the baby McLaren could reflect F1’s attempts to become greener by concentrating on keeping weight down in tandem with a more modest powerplant.

mclaren escribió:yo esperaria algun render un poco mas atractivo del modelo en ciernes, algo mas proximo al F1 ...

Alberto J. escribió:

jalopnik escribió: After years of distraction building the SLR with Mercedes, McLaren is reportedly back on track with the successor to its legendary F1 supercar. Autocar reports the "F2" project is steaming ahead, using development once destined for the Mercedes-McLaren P8 -- a project put on hold in 2005 amid quality and sales problems by then MB boss Eckhard Cordes. Now, spies say McLaren is now testing mechanical mules for a mid-engined prototype in the guise of a Ferrari 360. No word on whether it's sporting a naturally aspirated V12 or a more F1-relevant V8. Will it wrest the speed trophy back from Bugatti? Will it look like the spec image Autocar commissioned? Will it return to a BMW-sourced engine or build one at Woking? Too many questions. – Mike Spinelli

autocar escribió:Autocar can reveal that McLaren’s own long-delayed mid-engined supercar project is back on track. The first prototypes already on test in the UK, and our exclusive artist’s impression reveals, for the first time, how the car could look.

For McLaren the project will be a chance to build a pure-bred follow-up the legendary F1, a car still regarded by some as the finest high-performance car in history.

F2: aborted Mercedes project comes good

The F2 has its roots in the P8, the car McLaren had been committed to building as a smaller and cheaper supercar with Mercedes, after the launch of the SLR. Mercedes boss Jurgen Hubbert confirmed in early 2004 that the company was actively “looking at a mid-engined road car”.

Codenamed P8, the car was put on hold in late 2004 by then-Mercedes Car Group boss Eckhard Cordes. Cordes said that the P8 had “successfully completed the concept stage,” but development had been frozen.

The hiatus was mainly a result of huge losses at Mercedes and the emergence of significant quality problems in its mainstream models. Also, the SLR was also not as well received as Mercedes had hoped and there was a great deal of recrimination in the air, especially about its perceived engineering failings.

McLaren goes it alone

The F2 will be a solo effort by the Woking outfit, and a chance to re-establish the company’s credentials at the top-end of the market.

Sources have told Autocar that mechanical mules disguised under a Ferrari 360 body are already running around the company’s Woking HQ. They advise to expect a mid-engined machine built around a carbon-fibre monocoque.

If the new car does echo the 15-year old F1 concept it will be powered by a normally aspirated V12 powerplant too. However, as F1 currently demands V8 engines, the baby McLaren could reflect F1’s attempts to become greener by concentrating on keeping weight down in tandem with a more modest powerplant.

mclaren escribió:yo esperaria algun render un poco mas atractivo del modelo en ciernes, algo mas proximo al F1 ...

Clio 2.0 escribió:

mclaren escribió:yo esperaria algun render un poco mas atractivo del modelo en ciernes, algo mas proximo al F1 ...

Mae Daniel estaba esperando una respuesta tuya con MUUUUUCHA mas informacion, tenes homewok que hacer

mclaren escribió:

Clio 2.0 escribió:

mclaren escribió:yo esperaria algun render un poco mas atractivo del modelo en ciernes, algo mas proximo al F1 ...

Mae Daniel estaba esperando una respuesta tuya con MUUUUUCHA mas informacion, tenes homewok que hacer

ja ja ja en todas ... A veces como q da perecilla pasar mucho tiempo foreando :p


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pmontero escribió:

mclaren escribió:

Clio 2.0 escribió:

mclaren escribió:yo esperaria algun render un poco mas atractivo del modelo en ciernes, algo mas proximo al F1 ...

Mae Daniel estaba esperando una respuesta tuya con MUUUUUCHA mas informacion, tenes homewok que hacer

ja ja ja en todas ... A veces como q da perecilla pasar mucho tiempo foreando :p


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Yeah right pito... más bien quién sabe en cuántos foros y páginas más está metido que no le quedó tiempo para salir con algo más sutancioso para MM.

Clio 2.0 escribió:Seguimos a la espera de la respuesta Daniel!!!!!

Clio 2.0 escribió:Por eso mismo, tenes que trabajar en la respuesta del tan esperado sucesor...

Clio 2.0 escribió:Bueno espero que las Mac si te gusten

pmontero escribió:La clave con ese carro va a ser el PESO... habrá que ver qué tanto logran hacer los ingenieros con los requerimientos actuales de seguridad. El tema de emisiones no creo que influya tanto en el resultado final del carro.

Que opinas de esto MCLAREN???